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Added: Jul 21, 2007

From: GreenCastleBlock

Duration: 10:2

This is a discussion of a trap in the Ruy Lopez, Steinitz Defense. This is an important trap to know because it shows what happens if Black tries to hold the center in the Steinitz. When Tarrasch beat Marco in 1892, it signaled the beginning of the end for the Old Steinitz Defense. Today the Neo-Steinitz, 3...a6 4.Ba4 d6, is much more popular because it avoids the trap in this video.

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s1k2y3e4 Says:

Mar 12, 2009 - Just starting to learn.Very informative.Thank you

siddharthp1983 Says:

Mar 23, 2009 - White will still play Be7. Then Rxe7 Rxe7 and white goes up the exchange. White's two rooks will have a significant endgame advantage over Black's rook and knight. The point of this fork is that black goes down an exchange (loses a rook for a bishop) no matter what move he plays. White then has a winning endgame.

pinkyfrogs23 Says:

Apr 4, 2009 - Very Impressive?

mainkx Says:

Aug 8, 2009 - cool video

bigmit37 Says:

Sep 5, 2009 - What program is he using to manipulate the chessboard like that?

GenericPurpleTurtle Says:

Dec 18, 2009 - That's ridiculously specific, but good ^^

Pitereczek100 Says:

Jan 29, 2010 - U shoud try domino guys

jakepremo Says:

Mar 9, 2010 - at 2:41 after white castles, on move 6. is there a reason black shouldn't capture Nxd4?

octopuscollective Says:

Aug 21, 2010 - good video. enjoyable study.

QuakePhil Says:

Sep 8, 2010 - Nice video. I like the birds chirping in the background? I just wanted to mention at 4:03 there is also 10. .. Bxd8, and then after 11. Nxe5, black's 11. .. Bxe4 is out of the question entirely as there's always Rxe4 with no back-rank mates. I also wanted to point out that black castles does lose a pawn, but black need can still opt out of losing a piece up until 11. .. Bxe4, which is the real howler. For example, 11. .. Bd7 is probably draw, or maybe something ambitious like 11. .. Bb4

GreenCastleBlock Says:

Sep 8, 2010 - I disagree with your assessment of that pawn-down queenless middlegame as a draw, but you are correct that Black doesn't have to lose a piece. Thanks for viewing.

QuakePhil Says:

Sep 8, 2010 - well, there's chances to draw, but I was incorrect to say it was probably draw. My point was that the tarrasch trap starts at move 12, and not before. Again great video, and I look forward to viewing the rest of them :)

dashwood123 Says:

Oct 30, 2010 - Nice video, but like all chess instruction it falls way short of the mark as it does not explain to the novice how to use a "small space advantage" if black plays 4.... exd4? What happens after that, how does white take advantage? Unless you can show or explain why a small space advantage is so important, there is no point in mentioning it.

GreenCastleBlock Says:

Oct 30, 2010 - What "mark"? Do you want to learn everything about chess from a 10 minute video? This video is about one specific topic, the tactical line, of course there are other options for both players and there is no way to fully explain those positions and stay on topic. But other options should be mentioned so that the viewer understands the entire line is not forced. I disagree with your premise that it is not ok to mention lines that aren't shown. Your expectations are unreasonable.

dashwood123 Says:

Oct 30, 2010 - No, I do not expect to learn everything from a 10 minute video. If you make a comment, it would be nice if you backed it up with a line or two to demonstrate, that is all I am saying.

GreenCastleBlock Says:

Oct 30, 2010 - That would be nice but I have severe trouble making these videos under the time limit, believe me there are several things I want to show but cannot, it is hard to decide what to put in sometimes

saltyseaweed Says:

Nov 4, 2010 - Bishop will come anyway, and if rook takes, then white rook retakes and black loses a rook for a bishop. If rook doesn't take, Bishop still forks rook on f8 or the knight.

master0rose Says:

Jan 7, 2011 - its quite common sense ... its called a space advantage because you have more space to move your pieces

slahblah Says:

Jul 18, 2011 - Nice video, but I want to mention that GM Roman Dzindzichashvili says it's good for black after 5. Qxd4. Continuation would go 5...Ne7 6. Bg5 a6 7. Bxc6+ Nxc6 8. Qd2 Be7 9.Bxe7 Qxe7 and position is equal. You can check his video out under "GM Dzindzichashvili - Ruy Lopez"

GreenCastleBlock Says:

Jul 18, 2011 - Dzindi says a lot of things. Could you give a full move order please? I'll take a look at it.

tobyhoch Says:

Dec 19, 2011 - After these moves: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 d6 4.d4 Nf6 none of the games in the database suggest 5.d5 as the correct way to continue. The most popular line runs: 5.O-O Bd7 6.Nc3 Be7 7.Re1 exd4 8.Nxd4 O-O 9.Bxc6 bxc6 10.Qf3 Re8 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bh4 Nh7 13.Bxe7 Qxe7 14.Rad1

MetalSwitch95 Says:

Dec 30, 2011 - What happens if Black takes the Queen with the Bishop instead of a rook?

TheCedo87 Says:

Feb 9, 2012 - all chess games video are about WHAT IF...so just play and learn...

ookami3380 Says:

Mar 30, 2012 - i will never play this game good enough cause i always play on intuition and never follow the rules of " dont do that you will fuck up" ... damn.

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